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"Race"? In France it is forbidden to ask or record the religion or color of skin. Thus, it is forbidden to make statistics about it. Of course it is not the same about people with a handicap.


By the way, in Germany, they don't track your race, but they ask you for your religion when you move there. And it's actually a trap ! If you answer that you have any, suddenly you'll see a religion tax (deducted from your salary every month) going to your religion of choice. In Germany is literally "pays" to be agnostic.


Yep, Kirchensteuer ... usually between 8% and 9% if you're member of a confession that collects tax. Many people leave the church because of that, but then try and get your son or daughter into one of the many christian nurseries or schools later, and you have a bit of a problem ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_tax#Germany


Country hack - start a new religion called "Agnosticism" and get massive income from forced government personal levies?!?


Lol. Why on earth do they do this?


Certain churches are 'Körperschaften des öffentlichen Rechts' as such they fall under state church law and get priviledges that historically were granted to the catholic and protestant church after they had lost their territorial holdings and financial independence in the 'Reichsdeputationshauptschluss' 1803.


Are you kidding me? This is a great idea and incredibly fair.

Why should non-believers fund churches with their tax money?

Believers should be responsible for funding their churches/temples/holy places without relying on those who don't care.


I'm curious where you're from. In the US, the government being separate from religion is a pretty big deal so having taxes going to churches at all would seem strange.

The system in the US, for instance, isn't that non-believers fund churches with their tax money, it's that no one funds churches with tax money at all, members of the church donate directly to the church.

(Before someone comments, yes churches are often tax-exempt like other charities and non-profits, but that is different from actually receiving money from the government)


It turns out that recent studies have shown that employers will still find something to discriminate about.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2010/11/2...

Not saying the American system solves this either. But it's interesting how the different approaches end up working on the ground.


I'll try not to reach a Godwin point in saying this, but we don't really do that for discrimination but because we're traumatised of lists with people's religions on it. Saying the "race" word is a big no-no too. It's a cultural legacy rather than a real approach.


You know, that's actually a good point. I hadn't really considered the cultural context of that issue in France. Americans tend to be very German focused when thinking about it.

I guess the good news is that sometimes we find European politics about as baffling as I'm sure Europeans find American politics at times.


Weird, in the UK I recall seeing (non-obligatory) questionnaires about ethnicity, so that they can make sure they are an "equal opportunity employer".


Yeah, those are for statistical use only.

The employer can't discriminate in either direction based on that information (which is why it gets a special section of the application for that can get torn out).

But they do need to record the charecatristics of people who are applying, and people who are getting hired, so they can spot rascist managers, etc.


How many categories they have for ethnicity ? I'm asking because the whole concept of Race came from White anthropologists in the 18-19th century who wanted to demonstrate that the white man was above every other race around. So it seems very backward to use the same kind of criteria.


The census and the police use a system of "self defined ethnicity", and other official forms use similar categories: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_Defined_Ethnicity


However it is customary to include a photo, date of birth, and marital status on your CV.


Yes.

I have often been told "Can you please fill this form?" by French IT contractor companies and the subtitle was "Nationality - Age". The title was "Degree and name of the achool", which is just as discriminating after 7 years of experience. Marital status isn't really prompted.


DoB and marital status are not part of modern CVs. They are irrelevant cruft. The employer is legally not allowed to take them into consideration so there is no point in including them on your CV.


Are you still speaking about France or in general? Every guide I've seen to writing a French (and German) CV lists those items as more or less essential. [1][2][3] And even if they are not essential, or not legally required that doesn't mean leaving them off will not affect their decision [4]. However, maybe it really is not a problem. I honestly have no idea. Have you seen other articles saying to no longer include them?

[1] http://french.about.com/library/writing/bl-cv.htm

[2] http://conseils-carriere.monster.ch/cv-et-lettres-de-motivat... 3. Personal Information - "limit to a strict minimum: ...date of birth, nationality, marital status, number of children"

[3] http://conseils-carriere.monster.ch/CV-et-lettres-de-motivat... "Should I give detailed information about my marrital status? Write whether you are single, married, widowed, or divorced. If you have children, only mention their age and sex, not their names."

[4] http://www.thelocal.de/20130131/47649 "Unlike most English resumes, German CVs always include a passport-style professional photo in the upper right-hand corner - a detail advisers say you would do well not to leave out.

"German employers are used to seeing a photo on a résumé, they can't explicitly demand in the job advert that you put one because that goes against privacy laws," Störr told The Local.

"But they'll be looking for it so always put one. A photo allows potential employers to make a different kind of personal connection with someone and will help them connect your skills with your face when you come to an interview.""


Sorry, no, I was talking about the UK.




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