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Note: https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

Gibson's personality isn't the thing in question here, the quotation above is specifically about his history in security. If the comment was about how he's a major asshole (just an example, I'm not saying that) in conferences or something like that, it would be an ad hominem, as that sort of information would not be relevant.



I disagree. He doesn't address the actual topic here at all. All he is doing is saying that Steve Gibson is a charlatan.

His history as a security professional has no bearing on the actual content here. We are all talking about an idea SQRL not Steve Gibson. If you said, "SQRL isn't worth my time because I don't trust Steve Gibson" that's fine, but the author made no note on SQRL at all, he just attacked Steve Gibson and let it be.

Sure there may be precedence to say that SQRL isn't worth your time, but Steve's credentials don't affect this idea at all. For all you know he may have been given the idea by a team of security researchers who wanted to see if the top post on Hacker News would be some bull shit argument about Steve Gibson. Obviously not the case, but come on let's talk about the freaking content here not the man.

The saying "throwing the baby out with the bath water" comes to mind. Let's look at SQRL and see if it actually makes any sense before we throw it all away.


How is the quote about his history? It provides none of the following:

- Examples of Gibson's previous ideas that have been proven fake

- Examples of Gibson's previous projects that have security flaws

- Examples of projects that Gibson is purported to "peddle" through his "snake oil salesmanship"

- A quotable, referrable, expert opinion of Gibson's standing, or lack thereof, in the broader security community

The post includes none of those things. It is no better than saying "$NAME is a bad person!"; it merely uses more words to say so.

note that i am not affiliated with grc; my name is permuted :)


OK, mild correction, the quote itself doesn't really contain those, but the link from which it was taken does.

Attrition is itself the "expert opinion" of Gibson's standing, here's their Wikipedia page for more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attrition.org


He can be as wrong as he wants to be on all other topics of security, but that has zero relevance to whether or not he's right about this.

So yes, regardless of what your link says, the argument is an ad hominem.




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