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The email I received from Google in 2007 when they wanted to buy Zlio (berrebi.org)
154 points by cypriend on Nov 7, 2012 | hide | past | favorite | 40 comments


Some of these comments confuse me. What do you expect an m&a email to read like? Having been through a bunch of acquisitions, that email is par for the course, especially for a (presumably) smaller acquisition. You have an internal product sponsor who asks for basic financial info, asks for a price, has clearly laid out next steps and the process, and wants to start immediately. All positive for a first step. Some of the best corp dev guys I know have the worst grammar and email manners and to focus on that as a weakness is ridiculous...as long as they can approve a wire transfer, who cares? Some people are Youtube and have Eric layering sweet sugary syrup on their Pancakes whilst they discuss the beautiful synergies of a monster deal, but most of the time, the startup CEO is hustling it across the finish line.


> "For the little story, Zlio, became blacklisted/sandboxed by Google 6 months after…. It killed the company…"

This is only speculation, but it looks like zlio.com was sandboxed/blacklisted because of rampant spamming. 4 out of the top 5 referring domains are porn sites (about 150k links).

Source: http://ahrefs.com/site-explorer/refdomains/subdomains/zlio.c...


took a quick look, aren't those backlinks to subdomains? No idea what the product/service does but it appears subdomains are the main spam links, not the root.. So perhaps they were duped by spammers creating subdomains


It is a create your own store product. People would have simply been making a store and then using software to spam their links everywhere. I think sub domains are usually treated as separate domains though?


They are separate for user generated subdomains. http://www.seomoz.org/blog/understanding-root-domains-subdom...

It is possible that on that fateful day, Google noticed zlio is user generated sub domains, and lost power.


technically you could still suffer from that.

subdomains are treated as separate domains, right

If all the subdomains had links back to zilo (say the header or footer), it starts to look like a huge link farm, or a bunch of satellite sites. It's actually pretty dangerous. But disavow is here, right? hah


Yep, totally possible


Indeed


What an awful email. Reads like a lazy VC associate trying to do as little work as possible to pass along metrics to higher ups.


It's amazing how even when buying a company, people can't be bothered to use proper capitalization or even spell out the word "please". Wow.

I must have slept through the English class where they told me this was OK.


I think it's a power thing because they're manoeuvring for negotiation.

Translation: "I can't be bothered to spell because you're teensy and I have another $1B to spend today on companies 100x bigger than yours. Make with the paperwork chop chop."

Then, confirmation: "Give me your mobile so I can call you any time I feel like to make you jump, because you're the bitch now."


Yeah. My reply to that message would have been "I only give my mobile phone number to friends. Please use my office line between the hours of 9 AM and 5 PM EST."

But honestly, a lot of people seem to like doing business deals while walking around with their cell phones, so perhaps this is not actually a power play.


Hey Benny, I couldn't comment on your comment directly because you're in ban hell. But I get what you're saying.


It's funny how they refer to Schmidt, Page and Breslin as "the board" since it's obviously just 3 people :) In any large company you only use the "board" wording for a committee that's at least 15-20 people.


The actual wording he used was "executive board" -- perhaps this is different from the "board of directors."


What?

They had already met once. Given the context, it sounds like a continuation of the conversation, casual in nature, from a biz person to an engineer.


Why does casual need to mean "communicate poorly"? When I type out emails, casual or not, they're designed to at least get the message across.

For something as important as an acquisition, I wouldn't want to feel like I'm dealing with an intern.


Give me an example of how you would do it while still maintaing the tone with a person you've only met once and want something from.


Well, put it this way: I could be on the receiving end of an email like this, and my gut would be telling me something is up.


Or almost like a once-in-a-lifetime-opportunity from a Nigerian bank clerk.


I think this was intended to read the way it does. Google A/B tests everything, including how well canned messages work vs. more personal messages like this.


I honestly thought this _was_ a canned message; one from a 'sales associate' eager to get a commission.


It was 2007. Maybe he was typing it on a blackberry?


They wanted financials and a valuation range? And then deep communications about technical challenges and workarounds? Reminds me that one of the nice things about owning a company is you can tell people to go away.


Social eCommerce Site Zlio Joins the Deadpool: http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/19/social-ecommerce-site-zlio-...


This is why I wouldn't touch SEO as a consultant. They ended up getting sued, despite little chance probably they could fix their issues without massive internal changes to the service. I guess the SEO company overpromised.


Referencement appears to be a black-hat-SEO French company: http://m.pinterest.com/visual3d/referencement-seo-smo/

I didn't realize, France has UK-style libel laws, where complaining about getting ripped off is punishable?


Why is it now trendy to publish private mail like this? Is there really that much public benefit to be had?


Agree on the point you make. But out of this context, I think, its useful/interesting for Startup founders, to see what acquisition mails from Google look like.


For a washed up has-been startup founder looking for catharsis or another 15 minutes of fame? Sure.


That seems unreasonably harsh. Feel better? I somehow doubt it.


Clearly you don't know Jeremie.

His best work has yet to be done.


I'm not sure if you're trolling but this, comically, adds nothing.


Looks like they also got banned from selling on Amazon too... http://techcrunch.com/2007/05/21/zlio-banned-from-amazon/


I always used to wonder about the contents of the first mail when an acquisition offer is made. Sad if all read like this! I hope not.


Of course I don't know what the terms were, but if you're in a position to decide to take on (more?) VC or sell to Google I'm inclined to say going with the latter is the better choice.

If you're a great visionary you'll have another chance not too far down the road to show the world again. If your good fortune hitched a ride with lady luck to some extent, then shamelessly cashing out your personal bubble is also a smart thing to do.


Did you read the article? Google took longer than 30 days to close the deal, and their term sheet with Mangrove was about to expire.

He had no choice but to accept the VC funding.


Sure, I read this: "After waiting for it 30 days, we decided to accept the Mangrove investment proposal." That sounds like a choice was made.

My main point is for those going forward: unless the equity you stand to convert into your own personal wealth is insignificant to you, an exit can't really stop your career for long but it also just might be the only chance you get.

Maybe the Google deal wasn't a sure thing but whether or not they could pay was not a question.


If Google wanted them enough they could still purchase after the additional VC. They'd just need to pay more.


I love Jeremie's life principle which got him through the Google sandboxing/blackballing and company failure after passing on the acquisition:

“Everything that happens in your life is for your own good”, “Every challenge makes you stronger”... "All he said was, don’t worry, good things will happen after this tough experience"

--http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/ilan-abehassera




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