But are you going to actually make money from it? I am quite leery of companies releasing awesome open source code, growing and taking on massive financing (based largely on that growth, which they achieved because of being open source) then after becoming entrenched in the market, bitching and whining about not "capturing enough value" from their open source code. (And often, switching to an non open source license, while simultaneously declaring their love for open source!)
Now, I know you folks haven't ever done that, but it is such a pattern lately that I almost expect it from any for profit company whose primary product is open source. I don't want to judge you based on the actions of others... but the pattern is so well established now that I have to exercise caution.
Now, in the end, I simply switch to whatever open source fork or alternative crops up (or already exists). But it makes it hard for me to go "Hey everyone, you should be using Astral's X because they are awesome and X is awesome and X is open source. And do 'y'[code contributions, financial sponsorship, buy support from them- whatever it might be] to make sure to support Astral and their development of the open source X code!" ... because I am anticipating the rug pull, taking the trademark and brand down the tube with it. Yet, I really, really, really want to support you folks. I want to tell everyone about your great products. I want to encourage them to use your product and to support you financially.
From my experience it's VERY rare for people to pay for anything unless they're forced, I do the same thing even though I'm very aware of the need for compensating creators.
Talk is cheap, and people talk a lot about supporting projects.
Maybe if we could make some kind of statistics over the number of projects that were abandoned because maintainers didn't feel like working and dealing with random people for free anymore. Make the consequences of freeloading visible somehow.
That has been my experience as well. I consider it a bug. I'm not proposing that we all just try harder to be altruistic, but rather that we craft some institution for rewarding people who have solved problems for many without encumbering those solutions with a monetization scheme.
Make like, a week long "holiday" where you either verify that your company has made an adequate donation to the OSS maintainers that make their products possible, or we all just go on strike for that week. Or... something. I'm sure somebody has a better idea than mine, lets get creative.
> I'm not proposing that we all just try harder to be altruistic, but rather that we craft some institution for rewarding people who have solved problems for many without encumbering those solutions with a monetization scheme.
> I'm sure somebody has a better idea than mine, lets get creative.
Every creative scheme I've seen someone try to come up with fails to do what charging money for a product can. Charge money for stuff, have a free tier, enjoy sustainable software.
That's fine for software that can still scratch the itch after it has been turned into a product, but I think there's a lot of unexplored space outside that category.
There's also a bunch of cases where adding tiers and payment flows blows the complexity budget and now what used to be a good idea is no longer worth it.
I'm curious to see what Astral will cook up! I assume they'll probably eventually create some sort of paid devtool service.
With that being said, the worst case scenario is that they go caput, but that still leaves the python community with a set of incredible new rust-based tools. So definitely a net win for the python community either way!
