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> would you imagine this happening under steve jobs?

Of course it could have. Making software is hard, and mistakes get made. The idea that the magical presence of Steve would prevent this is absurd.

There were plenty of terrible MacOS bugs under Steve's reign too. I can't help but feel there is perhaps a new generation of Mac users who don't remember or didn't experience how painful OS X was at times, even many years after the OS 9 to X transition had started.



Not magical. Fucking terrifying, and uninterested in the management layers designed to insulate any level staff from the consequences of this mistake. Compare Rickover.


It’s true.

OS X versions 1-3 were pretty bad. 10.3 was the first to be useable. 10.4 was actually good. Then 10.5 Leopard (or Leper as we knew it) was awful on release. From Snow Leopard onwards it’s been much better, with the occasional howler of course.

It seems to be a constant refrain that Apple’s software quality is declining in the same way civilisation is always falling or HN is becoming more like reddit.

In High Sierra they painlessly replaced the filesystem. Quite an achievement. Although everyone involved in this latest problem should be highly embarrassed.


> In High Sierra they painlessly replaced the filesystem.

Except that a colleague of mine who was adventurous enough to try it lost all the data. That stopped any one of us from upgrading (fortunately, if I may say so).

(it might be due to encryption, but it doesn't matter - the "painless" part is clearly not for everybody)


In High Sierra they painlessly replaced the filesystem.

No, they did not. They still cannot upgrade any Mac mini server running RAID 1. They sold that configuration and crippled there software to put in the new file system. That is only painless for flash drive owners.


So what pain did it cause you? Your computer is running the new OS, and they’re doing a staged rollout which seems to have caused no problems – that sounds exactly as described.


My computer is not running the new OS since it cannot be upgraded currently. We are upgrading every other Mac (originally for fear of not having the latest security), but cannot do upgrades on a configuration sold by Apple. Their filesystem transition which was accompanied by a down grade of Disk Utility is not painless.


> It seems to be a constant refrain that Apple’s software quality is declining

Funny - until recent years, I remember the mantra on MacOS being "yeah, but it's gotten better in the latest release".




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