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What prevented Paypal phishing sites from buying certificates from other providers?


The part where it wasn't scalable because it wasn't free.


checks they're supposed to be performing. Some are ignoring them but being punished for it. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-39365315


I'd definitely recommend clicking through that article and reading the source of the announcement:

https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/m/#!msg/blink...

> As captured in Chrome’s Root Certificate Policy, root certificate authorities are expected to perform a number of critical functions commensurate with the trust granted to them. This includes properly ensuring that domain control validation is performed for server certificates, to audit logs frequently for evidence of unauthorized issuance, and to protect their infrastructure in order to minimize the ability for the issuance of fraudulent certs.

> On the basis of the details publicly provided by Symantec, we do not believe that they have properly upheld these principles, and as such, have created significant risk for Google Chrome users. Symantec allowed at least four parties access to their infrastructure in a way to cause certificate issuance, did not sufficiently oversee these capabilities as required and expected, and when presented with evidence of these organizations’ failure to abide to the appropriate standard of care, failed to disclose such information in a timely manner or to identify the significance of the issues reported to them.

i.e. they apparently weren't even checking requesters controlled the domain they requested a certificate for in some instances!! And that's pretty much the only requirement for DV certificates?

My point is that the legacy ssl providers you're referring to were doing less checks than Lets Encrypt!


Both Mozilla[1] and Google[2] are on the record as saying that they don't believe CAs should be the ones to detect and block domains used for phishing and malware. Both are also platinum sponsors of Let's Encrypt.

[1]: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/mozilla.dev.security.p...

[2]: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/mozilla.dev.security.p...


DV certificates were never required to have different checks than what LE is doing, so what checks are you talking about?




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