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It's interesting you report such disdain with the product. I will admit I was a SQL employee working on a component that was shipping in VS2010 (there's a handful of teams that did this, Entity Framework being one of them, although I wasn't actually on the EF team, they are a pretty visible example). My team really grew to dislike DevDiv and their practices quite a bit in a lot of regards (however, in other areas I enjoyed DevDiv a lot). To be totally blunt, SQL has their shit together a lot better than DevDiv does. And to be perfectly blunt again, it was the thought of doing this all over again for Dev11 that was a major motivator in me wanting to leave MS.

And is 2010 worth the upgrade for most people? Hard to say. There's nothing in it that is truly mind blowing or "must have", it just iterates and improves a ton of stuff. I don't think .NET 4 alone is a compelling enough reason, most will remain happy with 2/3/3.5 for the time being.

With all that said, I still stand behind VS2010. I think it still came together well. I really do hope I get to use it as my day to day environment, I like it that much more than 2008. I'm actually impressed how well it emerged out of the chaos that is DevDiv :)

And yes, MS has dropped the ball on native dev quite a bit. It's definitely an afterthought. But most people who are looking to get 2010 are very much in the managed camp.



I'll admit some of the disdain is related to the process with no consideration for the the actual product itself. The taste in my mouth after Dev10 makes me unhappy and my desire to leave MS seems to align with yours: "all over again for Dev11." Good luck in your future endeavorer.


Yeah and good luck to you too. I can sure relate to your position. Although I'm sure the two of us were on totally different sides of a very large mountain :)




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